Thank you you for all the help, This is likely a silly question, But when i open the new .vlp from the person that writes them currently. I open it then import the tables and operands, then stop, download and reset? or do I do the download first, then the operands and tables? I have the new PLC(spare) in so im at the point of uploading to plc(download). Thanks again for helping this is a great community of people here.