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kratmel

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  1. You can export subroutings. !Main must be copied to subrouting for export. You can export hmi screens. Or if you need fast solution - send visilogic project to suppot.unitronics.com
  2. I recommend to run 9.8.65 Visilogic version and install old firmware from this version. After init&reset, download blank project and run modem test.
  3. Hi, if you look at two photos - something went wrong on the starting lines. You can find No.Ciclo in the first photo, but not in the second. There are other differences. I believe that the main problem is the operator's error when starting the machine cycle. Different operator names on both papers are different human behaviors. Some data is not entered into the PLC (HMI) and after starting the ladder logic - they do not generate the correct print sequence (or generate the wrong control character).
  4. If your application is in working condition and you do not need any modification you can use original version. Please note before upload (if it is possible - programmer can disable upload option) please Save all operand to file.
  5. Maybe this two topic is usefiul for solve your problem
  6. inside Visilogic HW Cfg folder. In this file you can see IO configuration for this PLC. You can also find IO configuration for all posible PLC in ini files. In ElementsList.ini file present list off *.ini files in HW Cfg folder (but some PLC variant is not listed). V130-35-TU24.ini not present also
  7. Hi, this information from Unitronics support maybe helpful. Please close Visilogic. In Visilogic installation you can find this folder C:\Program Files\Unitronics\Unitronics VisiLogic_C\Data\HW Cfg\Elements List Than find in this folder file ElementsList.ini Open this file via notepad - you can find all supported Vision PLC. You can add V350-35-TU24 and save file. After that V350-35-TU24 appear in Visilogic HW Config after Visilogic start and you can use it in project. P/S V350-35-TU24.ini file for this PLC present in Visilogic installation (in HW Cfg folder) but not listed in ElementsList.ini
  8. In this case, the main thing is that the welding currents do not pass through the shielding surfaces of the signal wires. The Faraday cage (control cabinet), extended by shielded cables to the motors and encoders, must work. You say no Unitronics servo possible. The use of a transformer to increase the voltage from 120 to 220V further isolates your system from parasitic interference. Accordingly, you will have the advantage - the availability of ready-made ladder for motion control through the CAN. The only thing you should pay attention to is the resistance of cables to UV radiation. Proper cables have been working on welding robots servo for over 10 years. Those closest to the UV source degrade quickly. In your case, I do not know whether UV rays will fall on the conductors to the servomotors and how it will react to this.
  9. I deal with ABB, Fanuс, Panasonic welding robots with different MIG, TIG process and Migatronic welding equipment. Everything that really works and moves in these systems is basically galvanically isolated CAN (CANopen) networks. In my opinion, CANopen - the most common and standard network for motion control supported by the Vision PLC. By using additional isolated power supply for the CAN transmitter and proper shielding of the networks, it is possible to achieve transmission stability. The main thing is to ensure proper grounding of all components of the welding system. However, I think for the author of the topic this should not be a problem, thanks to his many years of practical experience. The only problem that the Vision PLC probably can't solve is the simultaneous movement of the axles like a CNC machine. This requires a third-party motion controller. Therefore, the question to the author of the topic - will the movements of the axes be consecutive along the main axes of coordinates or should it be interpolation?
  10. I am the leader of a PLC programming group for students, some of whom are studying computer programming. To my surprise, their approach to solving the simplest control problems based on PLCs differed significantly from the typical one. I was especially impressed by the bit shift algorithm built on a typical computer cycle implemented in a PLC. At the same time, they were impressed by the possibility of using vector copying to solve this problem in one rung. Therefore, I support the Ausman tip This quickly adds experience and speeds up the creation of new program. P.S. I am sincerely impressed with the structure of Fernando PLC project - after simple reading the names of the subroutines I was able to imagine the content of the task you are solving.
  11. Modbus Plus option CARD an modbus registers https://files.danfoss.com/download/Drives/175R5340Rev1VLT5000ModbusPlusIM.pdf
  12. Hi, i find on your foto part number (order code) of two VFD. It is different.... In manual on p.17-18 https://files.danfoss.com/download/Drives/doc_MG52B202.pdf i found that both drive do not support F20 MODBUS PLUS option. F00 - no fielbus... F10 - Profibus not supported by Vision PLC. On p.85 you can find serial comm protocol. It is not modbus but you can run your net via Visilogic Protocol FB. You must run two separate networks for 36 drive run - 31 slaves can be connected to a master, unless repeaters are used. If repeaters are used, a maximum of 126 slaves can be connected to a master.
  13. Some quastion: - is it USB driver installed correctly and com port appear in Hardware? - is it correct com port selected in Visilogic and different speed selection tested? If yes - try to run terminal program on PC, select com port - connect 2 to 3 pin on USB-RS232 adapter and test loopback - is it TX information appear in RX terminal buffer. If terminal test OK - doble check wiring - only 3 wire needed for connect. If terminal loopback not work - change USB-RS232 hardware and reinstall driver. P.S. If V120 is used - you can stop internal program via info mode and try to connect...
  14. All version above 9.8.65 require activation. Activation is free, but some info must be sended to Unitronics. I do not know why it was needed but i think it embeded by request of lawmakers. But maybe i am wrong... Some new security changes is appear in new version Unilogic software and Unistream firmware also.
  15. Maybe it is helpful https://www.unitronicsplc.com/Download/SoftwareHelp/UniLogic_Knowledgebase/ Home > Ladder > Ladder Functions (LF) > LF: Math Functions > LF: INT to Real, Real to INT Or if you need - write C code for solve your math.
  16. I support Flex's words that the easiest way to implement a normal subroutine import is to find "Used operands" in the project. In the list of operands, we see the Use check box. In the import process, a dialog should appear that will offer action only for operands that are already "used" in the project or not allowed in project (for example some upper MI not present in Samba). Not used allowed in project operand can be transferred without any prompt. User has the next options: - Replace with a new description of the operand, - Leave present in project description, - Change the operand numbering, - Cancel the process. It look's like Copy - Paste dialog in Explorer. It should be noted that this method will allow you to transfer routines between different PLC in which different number of operands present.
  17. You can use machine transformer with 110VAC for power NDR-120-24 power supply (range 90-270VAC possible). Then no addon transformer needed. In this case you also can connect Neutral and ground in the way you drawed - the PLC will not damaged. If you use add on transformer with 220VAC output - this connection is also OK. Secondary 220VAC is isolated from mains.
  18. Hi, in only 380-400VAC 3-ph net i use WDR-series power supply. No transformer needed. 180-540VAC input possible. https://www.meanwell-web.com/en-gb/ac-dc-industrial-din-rail-power-supply-output-wdr--120--24 I think it is the best solution in mobile divice where only 3ph power present. P.S. Your diagram is standard. Then it must work without issue.
  19. You can connect meter to RS485 and after that - change cable, do not change dip and try to connect to modem via standard 4 wire connection. I think if you manage RS485 to RS232 change in program - modem connection is possible without dip change.
  20. present on this PLC (maybe Visilogic and remote connection) then only Meter RS485 / Modem RS232 changeover needed. To prevent problem with strange data comes to modem or meter i recommend relay switch. Maybe it is not perfect solution but i think it possible.
  21. One old trick that can be used for solve problem with one communication port. If you read installation manual https://www.unitronicsplc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Vxxx_J_T38_INSTAL-GUIDE_01-15.pdf you can find Port 1 pinout table and some information below: Note that it is possible to establish a PC to PLC connection using RS232 even when the PLC is set to RS485 (this eliminates the need to open the controller to set jumpers). To do so, remove the RS485 connector (pins 1 & 6) from the PLC and connect a standard RS232 programming cable. Note that this is possible only if DTR and DSR signals of RS232 are not used (which is the standard case). If you can temporarily not read the readings from your meter, then with the help of an external relay connected to the logic output, you can switch the connection between the modem and the meters while changing the configuration of the communication port in the program. Switching between different types of modems is shown in the example from Unitronics. I think you understand the idea. Therefore, from time to time you will be able to send SMS if necessary, but during the transfer - no meter readings will be received.
  22. I think in your case you should listen to the Ausman advice And upload a blank project before uploading the original project, as stated by Flex in his post. As many gurus have said many times on this forum - it is almost impossible to break Vision PLC via software ...
  23. I has one V700 on the shelf and install V100-17-CAN for make foto with installed connector In this topic i post result of my experiment And it turned out that the internal circuit of the CAN card has protection against "change of power polarity".
  24. The main question for you - why did you update the firmware? Have you added an additional unsupported by 9.8.80 feature set, servo or VFD? Maybe you just opened a project with a new Visilogic version and tried to download a 9.8.80 program to the updated PLC? At the beginning of my work with Unitronics, I read a message from Flex that the most correct is to use the controller firmware with the version of the Visilogic program in which it was created and burned. To do this, Flex has a set of versions with the ability to quickly switch. We must state the fact that developers are constantly moving forward, as they, like Henry Ford, could release the same model of machine (PLC) for another 20 years, but changes in the Visilogic environment need to modify something in the firmware - so the transition from the old program to the new version Visilogic and firmware must be justified and tested .
  25. You did not specify which PLC was used. Therefore, I recommend adding an additional port V100-17-RS4/V100-17-RS4X to V430. This will allow you to connect a standard modem via RS232. This is probably true. However, nothing prevents you from transmitting commands to the modem via additional port RS232 port (and external convertor RS232 to RS485 if no RS232 port present on modem). Please, describe your configuration - what your existing RS485 port is used for, what modem you have, or maybe you haven't chosen it yet.
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