Evert Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hi All, I'm new here so let me start with a short introduction. I work for a company doing applied research on renewable energy technologies, building small to pilot scale factories. We've been using some outdated data acquisition systems that desperately needed to be upgraded. For a new project we've decided to try out the Unitronics PLC system with Unilogic programming, to see if that's suitable for our applications. First impressions are very good! Now my question, in my process I have a weight cell, combined with converter to get 4-20 mA output signal. This signal is converted to the actual mass by linearize function. However I would also like to calculate the change in mass in time, to display the mass flow. In Excel I usually take the linear regression function, but after searching around I cant find an example how to program it in Unilogic. I'm not a math wizard, but the linear regression basically takes a specified number of measurements (mass, y-axis) for a specified number of times (x-axis) and then calculates the slope of the line (least squares method). So I need to collect say 10-20 measurements to calculate the slope, and then ideally each iteration have the first measurement out and a new one in... Surely this must have been done before right? Is there someone here that can point me in the right direction? I hope I placed this in the right topic... Regards, Evert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 You could try using the DataSampling function, found in the Solution Explorer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evert Posted March 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 20 hours ago, Dave said: You could try using the DataSampling function, found in the Solution Explorer Thank you for the reponse and your tip, the DataSampling is very useful for storing my data and creating graphs! For the linear regression I think the data-table feature might be easier though? I haven't figured it out yet but if I can just have 10 or 20 rows filled with my measurement value, every 1 second, than I should be able to calculate flow quite easily. Still struggling with all the data-table though. edit: it seems that I can only use the data from the first or last row from the data table, that would not give the solution I'm looking for I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexUT Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Unitronics PLCs has no embedded functions, like "regression function", etc. Look at Helpdesk article: Calculate Totalizing or Integral https://support.unitronics.com/index.php?/selfhelp/view-article/calculate-totalizing-or-integral In common, PLC scan time should be as small as possible. Complex functions will take long time and enlarge scan time. So if you decide to realize "regression function", you should take care to minimize disturbance to scan time. B.R. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evert Posted March 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Thank you Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 Ausman Posted March 3, 2022 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Evert, I am not a Unistream user. I only use Vision. But from what you are saying, my approach must be easily achieved in Unilogic. My understanding is that you basically need a FIFO list of data. In Vision, I wouldn't be using a data table. It would be a simple matter of storing numbers into the first area of a vector of FIFO MIs, doing appropriate maths on that entire vector length (perhaps using the Maths/Formula), getting the result you need, updating the MI vector by shifting all the data along the vector the single read amount (using the most convenient method, perhaps even using an "intermediary vector copy" which copies the entire vector to an area and then reads back just the required shorter one), doing the next read and then repeating the entire process. The things you need to decide are the time interval between reads, and the sample size. The two are obviously intertwined but are crucial to the accuracy of the result. As Alex says, scan time should be as small as possible, but it needs to allow for all the needed operations. Although I can't find them quickly, there have been numerous questions and answers on this sort of thing on the Vision forum. Although it is not exactly what you want, a method of flow calculation that might be a basis for your ask might be this one: https://forum.unitronics.com/topic/4599-totalizer-to-gpm/?do=findComment&comment=17077 I would suggest a read of the entire topic as well. cheers, Aus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Mendoza Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Hi to everybody, Regarding linear regression calculation the following website has C code for that purpose. https://www.codesansar.com/numerical-methods/linear-regression-method-using-c-programming.htm You may use the C programming function in Unistream and take advantage of the code to get the "a" and "b" coefficients. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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