sgull Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hi all, I had been using the original UniLogic software with windows 8 and 8.1 with no problems.I downloaded the latest version today and failed to start the program. The download appears to progress normally. The program starts with "loading notifier" and then followed by "loading Components" At this point nothing happens and the program will not load further. The PC still functions as normal with little impact on resources. Has anyone managed to install this version on windows 8.1? Regards Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hi, I ran the new version on Windows 8 (not 8.1, because my windows doesn't show the 8.1 update).We would like to get some further information about this problem. Please navigate to: %ProgramData%\Unitronics\UniLogic\Temp\ErrorData\ You should either see a zip file dated with the date and time of the crash, or a bunch of files like: sysinfo.txt and information.txt The one that contains the actuall error is information.txt Please attach this file here, or paste it's content. This might give us a clue about what wrong. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgull Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks Saragani I checked that file and its empty. I'm not really getting an error, the start up of the program just stops. When I start in windows 8.1 mode i get image 1 When I start in compatibility for windows 8 or 7 i get image 2. Both with run as administrator enabled. Regards Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Can you please start UniLogic without any compatibility mode, and then check in the Windows event viewer to see if there are any .net exceptions (and if so, what?) Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgull Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hi Saragani The following error appears to indicate a problem. - System - Provider [ Name] SQLLocalDB 11.0 - EventID 528 [ Qualifiers] 51653 Level 2 Task 0 Keywords 0x80000000000000 - TimeCreated [ SystemTime] 2013-12-05T19:41:17.000000000Z EventRecordID 79491 Channel Application Computer samsung-work Security - EventData WaitForMultipleObjects 575 {Application Error} The application was unable to start correctly (0x%lx). Click OK to close the application. 3621 Not sure if this is a windows component of something in the Unilogic setup. More than likely a windows error if no one else has had problems. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 In case the Unitronics,Notifier.exe is running, the kill it with the Task manager. Open the command prompt and write: sqllocaldb start UniLogic If you get an error when you write the sqllocaldb thingy in the command prompt, then tell me. Then start UniLogic. Tell me if it helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgull Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks again Tried this and got the following (image 2) Also attached is an error log from the Unilogic sql as follows 2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server Microsoft SQL Server 2012 - 11.0.2318.0 (Intel X86) Apr 19 2012 11:55:51 Copyright © Microsoft Corporation Express Edition on Windows NT 6.2 <X86> (Build 9200: )2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server © Microsoft Corporation.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server All rights reserved.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server Server process ID is 7404.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server System Manufacturer: 'SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.', System Model: 'RF511/RF411/RF711'.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server Authentication mode is MIXED.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server Logging SQL Server messages in file 'C:\Users\Dennis\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server Local DB\Instances\UNILOGIC\error.log'.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server The service account is 'SAMSUNG-WORK\Dennis'. This is an informational message; no user action is required.2013-12-05 20:38:59.59 Server Command Line Startup Parameters: -c -S "MSSQL11E.LOCALDB" -s "LOCALDB#89EF9B88" -d "C:\Users\Dennis\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server Local DB\Instances\UNILOGIC\master.mdf" -l "C:\Users\Dennis\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server Local DB\Instances\UNILOGIC\mastlog.ldf" -e "C:\Users\Dennis\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server Local DB\Instances\UNILOGIC\error.log"2013-12-05 20:38:59.95 Server SQL Server detected 1 sockets with 4 cores per socket and 8 logical processors per socket, 8 total logical processors; using 8 logical processors based on SQL Server licensing. This is an informational message; no user action is required.2013-12-05 20:38:59.95 Server SQL Server is starting at normal priority base (=7). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:38:59.95 Server Detected 2985 MB of RAM. This is an informational message; no user action is required.2013-12-05 20:38:59.95 Server Using conventional memory in the memory manager.2013-12-05 20:39:00.18 Server Node configuration: node 0: CPU mask: 0x000000ff:0 Active CPU mask: 0x000000ff:0. This message provides a description of the NUMA configuration for this computer. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.18 Server Using dynamic lock allocation. Initial allocation of 2500 Lock blocks and 5000 Lock Owner blocks per node. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.21 Server Software Usage Metrics is disabled.2013-12-05 20:39:00.21 spid5s Starting up database 'master'.2013-12-05 20:39:00.24 spid5s 32 transactions rolled forward in database 'master' (1:0). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.27 spid5s 0 transactions rolled back in database 'master' (1:0). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.29 Server CLR version v4.0.30319 loaded.2013-12-05 20:39:00.40 Server Common language runtime (CLR) functionality initialized using CLR version v4.0.30319 from C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\.2013-12-05 20:39:00.58 spid5s SQL Server Audit is starting the audits. This is an informational message. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.58 spid5s SQL Server Audit has started the audits. This is an informational message. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.71 spid5s SQL Trace ID 1 was started by login "sa".2013-12-05 20:39:00.74 spid5s Server name is 'SAMSUNG-WORK\LOCALDB#89EF9B88'. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid5s Failed to verify Authenticode signature on DLL 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\110\LocalDB\Binn\\ftimport.dll'.2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid9s Starting up database 'mssqlsystemresource'.2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid5s Error: 17204, Severity: 16, State: 1.2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid5s FCB::Open failed: Could not open file e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\MSDBData.mdf for file number 0. OS error: 3(The system cannot find the path specified.).2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid5s Error: 5120, Severity: 16, State: 101.2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid5s Unable to open the physical file "e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\MSDBData.mdf". Operating system error 3: "3(The system cannot find the path specified.)".2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid11s Server local connection provider is ready to accept connection on [ \\.\pipe\LOCALDB#89EF9B88\tsql\query ].2013-12-05 20:39:00.75 spid11s Dedicated administrator connection support was not started because it is disabled on this edition of SQL Server. If you want to use a dedicated administrator connection, restart SQL Server using the trace flag 7806. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.77 spid9s The resource database build version is 11.00.2318. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.2013-12-05 20:39:00.92 spid9s Starting up database 'model'.2013-12-05 20:39:00.92 spid9s Error: 17204, Severity: 16, State: 1.2013-12-05 20:39:00.92 spid9s FCB::Open failed: Could not open file e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\model.mdf for file number 1. OS error: 3(The system cannot find the path specified.).2013-12-05 20:39:00.92 spid9s Error: 5120, Severity: 16, State: 101.2013-12-05 20:39:00.92 spid9s Unable to open the physical file "e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\model.mdf". Operating system error 3: "3(The system cannot find the path specified.)".2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s Error: 17207, Severity: 16, State: 1.2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s FileMgr::StartLogFiles: Operating system error 2(The system cannot find the file specified.) occurred while creating or opening file 'e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\modellog.ldf'. Diagnose and correct the operating system error, and retry the operation.2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s File activation failure. The physical file name "e:\sql11_main_t.obj.x86release\sql\mkmastr\databases\objfre\i386\modellog.ldf" may be incorrect.2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s Error: 945, Severity: 14, State: 2.2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s Database 'model' cannot be opened due to inaccessible files or insufficient memory or disk space. See the SQL Server errorlog for details.2013-12-05 20:39:00.93 spid9s SQL Trace was stopped due to server shutdown. Trace ID = '1'. This is an informational message only; no user action is required. Thanks Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 What happens if you write in the command prompt: sqllocaldb start v11.0 (Same error, or does it work correctly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It appears that something went wrong in the LocalDB installation. The following solution is kinda long shot, but it helped someone else that was using Microsoft Lightswitch. Go to: %localappdata%\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server Local DB\Instances You should see there 2 folders: UNILOGIC v11.0 Delete the UNILOGIC folder Start the command prompt as administrator and write: sqllocaldb delete UNILOGIC sqllocaldb create UNILOGIC sqllocaldb start UNILOGIC Hopefully, you will not get any error on either of those commands, and if the start command goes successfully, then UniLogic will most likely work correctly this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgull Posted December 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hi Saragani This worked. I would have been old and grey before I would have solved this myself. (well older and greyer) Thanks again for all your help, best technical support from any organization in the world. Regards Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm glad to hear that it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara Bereck Levy Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Having the SaraGuru troubleshoot a tech issue is like having Sherlock Holmes on the case...it WILL BE SOLVED!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hi I have same problem as sgull. My computer have Windows XP and Windows 7. In XP i install and run UniLogic without problem but in Windows 7.... I install UniLogic 1.2. ver5 and try to run it. The program starts with "loading notifier" and then followed by "loading Components" At this point nothing happens and the program will not load further. I try to start UniLogic without any compatibility mode and as administrator but no difference. In the Windows 7 event viewer i have 2 messages: First one: Log Name: Application Source: .NET Runtime Date: 20.12.2013 г. 12:58:21 ч. Event ID: 1026 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: milen-PC Description: Application: Unitronics.Notifier.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: System.AggregateException Stack: at System.Threading.Tasks.TaskExceptionHolder.Finalize() Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name=".NET Runtime" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1026</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-12-20T10:58:21.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>1283</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>milen-PC</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Application: Unitronics.Notifier.exe Framework Version: v4.0.30319 Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception. Exception Info: System.AggregateException Stack: at System.Threading.Tasks.TaskExceptionHolder.Finalize() </Data> </EventData> </Event> Second one: Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 20.12.2013 г. 12:58:23 ч. Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: milen-PC Description: Faulting application name: Unitronics.Notifier.exe, version: 1.2.5.0, time stamp: 0x529d4b9c Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.1.7600.17206, time stamp: 0x50e65f4f Exception code: 0xe0434352 Fault offset: 0x0000969b Faulting process id: 0x638 Faulting application start time: 0x01cefd725bd7f80e Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Unitronics\UniLogic\Unitronics.Notifier.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll Report Id: a4822629-6965-11e3-8b98-0019dbd5b332 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-12-20T10:58:23.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>1284</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>milen-PC</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Unitronics.Notifier.exe</Data> <Data>1.2.5.0</Data> <Data>529d4b9c</Data> <Data>KERNELBASE.dll</Data> <Data>6.1.7600.17206</Data> <Data>50e65f4f</Data> <Data>e0434352</Data> <Data>0000969b</Data> <Data>638</Data> <Data>01cefd725bd7f80e</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files\Unitronics\UniLogic\Unitronics.Notifier.exe</Data> <Data>C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll</Data> <Data>a4822629-6965-11e3-8b98-0019dbd5b332</Data> </EventData> </Event> Please help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Is this the first time you have installed UniLogic on the Windows 7 machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohaldi Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hello, I also just bought a new PC with Windows 8.1 (in French). I made a new installation with my login (I'm Administrator) but did have had a lot of problems! I uninstalled VisiLogic 9.5.0, deleted all directory's. I logged now as Administrator. Make a new install. Now I could load my Projects. If I go back to my user profile and start VisiLogic (also as Administrator), I get a lot of error messages. Like: Recouver Project (165) VisiLogic was not shut down properly. Or 14Invalid Tools collection index Error 2006 Programm crash!... I like to use Visilogic with my user profile! I also switched off UAC but same problems. Sometime, I can start VisiLogic and load a project, but can’t exit it! Regards Otto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 We are talking here about UniLogic, but what you describe is a different story (Since UniLogic was built while considering Administrative rights, files and directories locations etc, but when Visilogic was first introduced, Windows 95 and 98 was in the market and administrative rights were not even an issue). About windows 8... you think you have disabled the UAC. If you have disabled it from the windows configuration UI then it is not actually turned off, it is just not showing any annoying messages. I had issues like that with other programs (The only way to turn off the UAC completely is using the registry, but after we weeks it goes back on). The solution for the Visilogic problem is running Visilogic as Administrator (right click on it and select "Run as Administrator"). Windows 8 does give administration rights to a program even if you are the administrator and the UAC is "Off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Is this the first time you have installed UniLogic on the Windows 7 machine? Yes. I instanstal UniLogig as admin but UAC was on. In this machine i have both XP and Win7. First I instal UniLogic in XP without problem. Next I instal UniLogic as admin but UAC was on in Win7. Problem is still occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohaldi Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Sorry, if I asked my question in this Topic! Yes Visilogic seem to work correctly if I start it as Administrator! You are right I didn't turn USC off, only disable it just to not have any messages. Many thanks for your quick help and wish your a merry Christmas and happy new year. Otto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Nothing to sorry about, I just noted out that this thread is about UniLogic. I'm glad I could help. Merry Christmas and happy to both of you as well :-) mbb, I don't think that the problem you have is related to administrative rights. I cannot know the exact problem from the error report, because I only get that there was an unhanded exception in a Task, and the Notifier crashes only after the .Net garbage collector has collected the task (and it doesn't give me any information about the exact error). Maybe looking at the Windows Event Viewer would give the exact error (There are sometimes 2 errors, one is more generic). Please contact our support tomorrow or on Monday, so one of our R&D will try to help (We would probably want to remote control the computer in order to look on some error logs, or put a debug exe that tries to find the exact error) Thank you for your cooperation and sorry for the inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hi all, I solve the problem. Problem isn’t related to administrative rights. For unknown to me reasons. UniLogic Installer don’t install SQL’s. I think this is normal because in “UniLogic System Requirements ReadMe.pdf“ I read and Unitronics write this: Notes: *Windows XP: the UniLogic installation will also include SQL 2008 R2 Express. *The UniLogic installation files for higher version of Windows do not require SQL 2008 R2 Express In my machine Installer: Pending Microsoft Net Frame 4 install it and then Pending and install some update for Net Frame and this is all. When I look in pack, ooooh surprise there is SQL’s for 32- and 64- bit versions. I install it manually. And everything is OK. My UniLogic work. It is not very difficult to write a document and describe what users must install and see the screen??? This problem took me three days and a lot of reading. UniLogic still look great in my eyes. Merry Christmas Regards Milen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hi, which version of Windows you have? I understand that it is Windows 7, but is it by any chance not updated to SP1? What kind of SQL server you have installed? You should have installed the LocalDB server (not the SQL 2008 R2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Windows 7 Enterprise I don't now what mean SP1. They just install Win 7 and then have about 175 updates. In the next day I try to install UniLogic. I ask some people at work after Christmas. I'm working on 30.12.2013. I find SQL server (LocalDB) maybe 2012 in UniLogic package. I'm sure this is not SQL 2008 R2. Merry Christmas. Milen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragani Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 SP1 means Service Pack 1 (a bunch of fixes for windows packed in a big update) If you say that you have 175 updates, then most likely that Windows 7 SP1 was not yet installed, which can explain why the local db was not installed. (The installer install the localdb only on Vista SP2 and up, and on Windows 7 SP1 and up). I'll forward the problem you have experienced to the R&D Thank you for your feedback and Merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 My Win7: http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=2f0c468390 UniLogic package: http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=2e8451fa98 Installed programs on my PC: http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=f191cc9a7e I did an experiment on another computer running same Windows 7 a year ago. UniLogic Installer automatically install NetFrame and this time SQL from UniLogic pack. Happy new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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