Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 I recently had an EX-RC1 fail on a piece of equipment I have. I have very little support from the manufacturer, but they thought that just swapping the module would fix the issue. I lost CANbus coms between it and the Vision 1210 hmi/plc. Well I have CANbus coms back up with the new RC1 module, but the RC1 seems to not be configuring as they thought. It appears it needs a program, or I am having some sort of version conflict. I do have the program for the 1210 hmi. I do not have anything for the RC1. On the RC1, I can communicate with it vi serial only when it is in bootloader mode. Once I move it out of that mode I can't communicate with it via serial or CAN. Like I said, I have very limited support from the manufacturer of the machine, and of course we need this thing producing. I have a Vision 1210 hmi/plc, multiple io via modbus, and then this one RC1 via CANbus, and it is connected to 4x IO-D16A3-TO16. Those modules just sit there with the RUN light slow blinking. I've done a lot of reading and tutorials but nothing is working for me. There is one where you export the i/o from the plc project, but that uses unilogic, and my project is built in visilogic (9.5.0) so it isn't a guide i can follow. Also unilogic doesn't support the Vision 1210 hmi/plc. As far as I can tell, I need a project for the RC1. Is there a way to get that from my main 1210 project? Or what am I missing? Also, when I uploaded the embedded project from the RC1, and did the HWConfig to add the 4 io modules, when I go to download back onto the RC1 it fails due to compiling issues. It does say the RC1 project was created with an older version of visilogic (7.0) but of course that is not available online to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 Joe Tauser Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Yes, the EX-RC1 does require it's own program. It's basically another PLC with limited capability. Reach out to support@unitronics.com to get older versions of Visilogic. 9 minutes ago, Mvv said: Also, when I uploaded the embedded project from the RC1, Does this mean you can still get the program out of the original RC1? Joe T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 No, I can't seem to get it out of the original failed unit. I was referring to the new unit when I uploaded that. I can only communicate with the failed RC1 in bootloader mode (all dipswitches on/up). Uploads fail in that mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 You need a program the EX-RC1 is a PLC with limited ability. Send an email to support@unitroincs.com and they will be able to provide the version of the Visilogic required. Then you can try uploading the EX-RC1 program. Also double check that the jumpers for the EX-RC1's unit ID are set correctly on the new unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 Flex727 Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 It looks like you're on the right track in your last paragraph. What were the compile errors? I see Joe Tauser replied while I was typing. Always follow Joe's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 This is with only uploading the project from the new rc1, configuring the io modules in the HW configuration, and trying to download it back into the same new rc1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Are there newer firmwares for the RC1 available? There is very little information on these things I can find. I can't get version info out of the old one. Of course this stuff always happens when the support is on a month long vacation and there's no other support options for a custom machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mvv said: I do have the program for the 1210 hmi. Please find example of communication with EX-RC1 in Visilogic Help menu. ......\Unitronics\Unitronics VisiLogic_C....\Examples\Version 900\Project examples\Communications\EX-RC1 You can compare Example V570_CAN Master with your project for 1210 and create project for EX-RC1 from example file. I think you have INN OUT subroutine in V1210. And it similar to example project. Only input and output setup must be configured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Or if someone has some ideas to get the program off of the old RC1. Like I said, I can communicate with all the dipswitches in the up/on position, but nothing else. I've tried to swap the daughter card from the old RC1 to the new RC1, but that doesn't change anything, whatever is wrong is on that card. The old RC1, only the power LED comes on when not in BL mode. CANbus doesn't work, serial doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 If you post program (in PM if it not possible on forum) and foto of used IO setup with EX-RC1 maybe someone can generate new program for EX-RC1. P.S. Is it CAN card on V1210 powered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 That would be amazing if anyone is willing to give it a try. I don't know that I should post the program on here. I'm trying to open the example you posted but it keeps erroring out. Currenty d/ling 8.6 that is said it was built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Try to post prog for 1210 to me via PM. I look on CAN configuration. Foto of used IO setup needed also. Check CAN wire and +24V power for CAN card. Sometimes it is lost and no communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) The board isn't giving me the option to PM a file, perhaps due to my member status? CANbus is fixed and working, I can communicate with the RC1 through the 1210 hmi and it tests OK with the tester in the "Communication & OS" widget. One oddity was that the OE had a 120O and a 180O instead of the called out 121's. I replaced the 180 with a 120. I guess I'll just delete this file later. Edited August 11, 2023 by Mvv remove project file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Is it problem solved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Which one? lol No, nothing is solved, but I also haven't done anything in the last hour except try to get an old Visilogics installed on my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mvv said: Which one? lol Sorry, you type: 1 hour ago, Mvv said: CANbus is fixed and working, Now i try to generate project for your EX-RC1. What version of Visilogic you use for connect with new EX-RC1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 I am using Visilogic 9.5.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Hi, i try to solve your issue using info from your project. One problem 9.8.65 version of Visilogic used to create prog for EX-RC1 Your config from project. Read from EX-RC1 input status Output status collect Send process to EX-RC1 And finally project for EX-RC1 for test via 9.8.65 Visilogic. Q12136_EX-RC1_test_001.vlp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 This got the io modules back online! We're still having an e-stop that won't reset, working on that now, unsure of it software or hardware yet. Thank you VERY much for the help so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvv Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 The modules are back online but the main plc isn't getting any of the data from them. Seems to be addressed incorrectly? BTW my company is willing to pay you for your time if we can get this figured out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mvv said: The modules are back online but the main plc isn't getting any of the data from them. Seems to be addressed incorrectly? You have two part of communication: Read inputs and send outputs. This two part must be checked separately. Now if no connection in EX-RC1 - outputs is disabled by module program. Quastions: 1) do you see PLC screen direct (on site)? 2) is it possible to go online Visilogic to PLC and try to see operand? 3) is it possible to connect to your PC via Anydesk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP 2023 kratmel Posted August 11, 2023 MVP 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 I find some bug in rev 001 Q12136_EX-RC1_test_002.vlp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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